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Post by shorty on Dec 3, 2015 2:14:28 GMT
Love how this turned into an aar witch hunt, I don't see him asking for the money at all? And yes he deserves some compensation, look at the Bucks after their HC punishment. I'm getting a top-5 pick from them because of it. Just because he's a smart GM who targets idiots in trades and wins often doesn't mean he "runs the league" jfc lol Bingo. Glad at least one GM gets where I'm coming from While you didn't ask for the cash, you were still pretty stubborn about giving it up as well. As a supervisor in this league and as someone who has now been here for quite a while, don't you get the sense that something like this would be considered unfair? Realistically, a compensation like this shouldn't happen. What bothers me is that you deny this, and don't supervise yourself in this case. And so we're clear, I'm glad and grateful that you do put as much time and effort into this league. It's GMs like you who raise the level of competition and keep this place moving. If I had the time or energy, I would step up myself as I have done at times in the past, but that's impossible for me these days. |
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Post by somerandomguy on Dec 3, 2015 2:15:26 GMT
i think both have their points, maybe less compensation or like i said before Arr can choose to sell the two NYK picks for $600 and i should be able to sell mine as well That way NYK new GM can have the picks back and arr decide if he wants the pick or not or something like that. shortysomerandomguynyybaseballI think that's fair |
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Post by getbeard on Dec 3, 2015 2:25:53 GMT
Love how this turned into an aar witch hunt, I don't see him asking for the money at all? And yes he deserves some compensation, look at the Bucks after their HC punishment. I'm getting a top-5 pick from them because of it. Just because he's a smart GM who targets idiots in trades and wins often doesn't mean he "runs the league" jfc lol That explains why he never offers me trades lol I think that's more so because no one wants any of your players |
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 2:32:06 GMT
Bingo. Glad at least one GM gets where I'm coming from While you didn't ask for the cash, you were still pretty stubborn about giving it up as well. As a supervisor in this league and as someone who has now been here for quite a while, don't you get the sense that something like this would be considered unfair? Realistically, a compensation like this shouldn't happen. What bothers me is that you deny this, and don't supervise yourself in this case. And so we're clear, I'm glad and grateful that you do put as much time and effort into this league. It's GMs like you who raise the level of competition and keep this place moving. If I had the time or energy, I would step up myself as I have done at times in the past, but that's impossible for me these days. If bundy didn't think it was unfair and he runs the league, why should I think it's unfair? I'm surprised you don't think that the Knicks getting completely bailed out when I have their picks isn't unfair. Read what BANNAK wrote, he seems to at least get where I'm coming from. |
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 2:33:35 GMT
I said I never PM'd bundy and never asked for compensation. Your response was that I complained about the Knicks situation, which has nothing to do with me PMing bundy or asking for compensation. You responded with something completely irrelevant. I don't need to re-read anything. |
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Post by nyybaseball on Dec 3, 2015 2:36:42 GMT
I said I never PM'd bundy and never asked for compensation. Your response was that I complained about the Knicks situation, which has nothing to do with me PMing bundy or asking for compensation. You responded with something completely irrelevant. I don't need to re-read anything. You can't even admit the fact that you cried for something to get handed to you. Stfu and earn it you're a big boy. |
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 2:41:57 GMT
I said I never PM'd bundy and never asked for compensation. Your response was that I complained about the Knicks situation, which has nothing to do with me PMing bundy or asking for compensation. You responded with something completely irrelevant. I don't need to re-read anything. You can't even admit the fact that you cried for something to get handed to you. Stfu and earn it you're a big boy. I complained about the situation and said Yao should be a free agent. I did it in that thread, I did it in this thread and I'll do it again now. I never denied that. I lost out on two top-5 picks. Period. |
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Post by nyybaseball on Dec 3, 2015 2:46:36 GMT
You can't even admit the fact that you cried for something to get handed to you. Stfu and earn it you're a big boy. I complained about the situation and said Yao should be a free agent. I did it in that thread, I did it in this thread and I'll do it again now. I never denied that. I lost out on two top-5 picks. Period. *The possibility |
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Post by blue on Dec 3, 2015 2:52:59 GMT
i feel like aar should get some compensation, but either take the cash (or some, not totally a fan of all 1.32k) or have Yao a FA and give back the picks. cant let the new GM suffer for an old GM's idiocy, especially when its hard enough to find consistent GMs. if i was a new GM of the knicks i'd be real annoyed if i lost my best player and picks but i see where the league is coming from that 1.32k is an ungodly amount. but i also see where aar is coming from cause its not his fault either, but what everyone said about trading for picks is right, it's a gamble and you reap what you sow.
that being said, super is right, if he and i knew the cash would have been give as compensation to not just aar but distributed to multiple teams throughout the league i wouldn't have put so much up for grabs and like he said he wouldnt have either. drazen isn't worth the competitive edge that this cash is giving. even tho he would have been an immediate starter that fills big needs for us.
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 2:56:16 GMT
i feel like aar should get some compensation, but either take the cash (or some, not totally a fan of all 1.32k) or have Yao a FA and give back the picks. cant let the new GM suffer for an old GM's idiocy, especially when its hard enough to find consistent GMs. if i was a new GM of the knicks i'd be real annoyed if i lost my best player and picks but i see where the league is coming from that 1.32k is an ungodly amount. but i also see where aar is coming from cause its not his fault either, but what everyone said about trading for picks is right, it's a gamble and you reap what you sow. that being said, super is right, if he and i knew the cash would have been give as compensation to not just aar but distributed to multiple teams throughout the league i wouldn't have put so much up for grabs and like he said he wouldnt have either. drazen isn't worth the competitive edge that this cash is giving. even tho he would have been an immediate starter that fills big needs for us. And Yao becoming a free agent and me giving back the picks compensates me how?  |
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Post by somerandomguy on Dec 3, 2015 2:56:16 GMT
You can't even admit the fact that you cried for something to get handed to you. Stfu and earn it you're a big boy. I complained about the situation and said Yao should be a free agent. I did it in that thread, I did it in this thread and I'll do it again now. I never denied that. I lost out on two top-5 picks. Period. What makes you think a team with Hill/Petrovic is a bottom 5 team? Sure may not be a playoff team, but as itty found out rather harshly, Hill does a ton of things that helps teams win. I think that is where you are slightly off |
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 2:56:52 GMT
I complained about the situation and said Yao should be a free agent. I did it in that thread, I did it in this thread and I'll do it again now. I never denied that. I lost out on two top-5 picks. Period. What makes you think a team with Hill/Petrovic is a bottom 5 team? Sure may not be a playoff team, but as itty found out rather harshly, Hill does a ton of things that helps teams win. I think that is where you are slightly off In the East? That team is lotto at the very least. |
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Post by somerandomguy on Dec 3, 2015 2:59:30 GMT
Also need to put into perspective, the most you can claim from waivers/trades is $500 aar is getting nearly tripple of that just because the picks maybe slightly worse
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 3:01:04 GMT
Honestly, I'm done engaging on this. If bundybastard decides its $1320 or $0, I'm fine. I haven't said anything about this in a week, so it's not like I've been threatening to quit if nothing was done about it. Nothing had been done about it to this point and I was over it. It was nice of bundy to find a way to compensate me because he thought I was getting a raw deal. I still think its weak that the Knicks GM stepped down and that it affected my picks, but my team is doing really well and it's not the end of the world. I'll leave it to bundy and hopefully everyone respects what he decides. |
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Post by somerandomguy on Dec 3, 2015 3:01:20 GMT
Even what tt proposed technically isn't legal
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Post by blue on Dec 3, 2015 3:05:27 GMT
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Post by blue on Dec 3, 2015 3:08:10 GMT
Meant some cash not lump sum but half is reasonable |
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 3:07:58 GMT
Would rather keep the picks
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Post by mrclubz on Dec 3, 2015 3:09:40 GMT
This has nothing to do with it being some type of witch hunt against aar. I personally don't have any problems against him. Hes great gm. What I am arguing against is the ruling which should of been in place in the beginning so everyone could of been aware of what was happening. No gm would willingly give 1000+ Cash to another other gm for a declining player. I'm pretty sure 100% of the gms betting thought the cash was going to the league. & aar, yes it is a gamble. Knicks could of easily got under the HC or quit when he found out he couldn't claim anything. You never know what could of happen. For you to feel obligated to get this cash is just wrong. |
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 3:13:36 GMT
Honestly, I'm done engaging on this. If bundybastard decides its $1320 or $0, I'm fine. I haven't said anything about this in a week, so it's not like I've been threatening to quit if nothing was done about it. Nothing had been done about it to this point and I was over it. It was nice of bundy to find a way to compensate me because he thought I was getting a raw deal. I still think its weak that the Knicks GM stepped down and that it affected my picks, but my team is doing really well and it's not the end of the world. I'll leave it to bundy and hopefully everyone respects what he decides. |
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Post by getbeard on Dec 3, 2015 3:15:14 GMT
I think aar should get 500 TT should get 250 Rest to the black hole that is the league bank Keep it simple and do $250 per pick. There is no way to say any of the picks would have been top 5 and there's no way to say a new gm wouldn't have come in and cleaned thing up quick and one pick was late lotto and one is non lotto. We're basing compensation on ifs and possibilities which is hard. I think people myself included are just struggling to allow that much money to be given to aar when the max allowed in a regular transaction is $500. I do see your side aar I'm not totally against you here so sorry if I appeared to be earlier. |
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Post by SuperMaor23 on Dec 3, 2015 3:26:45 GMT
or restart the auction with the fact that aar gets the cash in mind, lets see how high it goes.
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Post by bundybastard on Dec 3, 2015 3:31:13 GMT
Your an idiot super
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Post by itnas123 on Dec 3, 2015 3:33:09 GMT
auction done to Wolves
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Post by SuperMaor23 on Dec 3, 2015 3:34:56 GMT
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Post by basenoc on Dec 3, 2015 4:27:46 GMT
Just give the Knicks supplemental picks & aar keeps the Knicks picks.
Supplemental #20 of 1st rds
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Post by basenoc on Dec 3, 2015 4:38:27 GMT
And just to remind us...the most cash in a trade/waiver a gm can get is 500. So $1350 compensation is unreal.
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Post by itnas123 on Dec 3, 2015 5:07:43 GMT
And just to remind us... the most cash in a trade/waiver a gm can get is 500. So $1350 compensation is unreal. Agreed. |
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