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Post by mrclubz on Dec 2, 2015 21:52:44 GMT
This didn't make sense at all. There should be no way aar gets this amount of cash or any cash. It's not like he waved drazen. Like srg said. Aar took a gamble and lost. Who's to say that the Knicks wouldn't have gotten under the hard cap if they would of atleast tried.
& I bet if gms knew this cash was going to anybody they wouldn't have gave nearly as much. It should of been stated in the beginning.
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Post by SuperMaor23 on Dec 2, 2015 21:53:40 GMT
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Post by aar on Dec 2, 2015 21:58:55 GMT
This didn't make sense at all. There should be no way aar gets this amount of cash or any cash. It's not like he waved drazen. Like srg said. Aar took a gamble and lost. Who's to say that the Knicks wouldn't have gotten under the hard cap if they would of atleast tried. & I bet if gms knew this cash was going to anybody they wouldn't have gave nearly as much. It should of been stated in the beginning. Has nothing to do with any sort of gamble. The Knicks would have lost Yao, weren't allowed to use cash and would have been basically crippled. I lost out on two top-5 picks because their GM bitched out. Also, what I traded for the picks is irrelevant. I'll let bundy decide, whatever he decides, I'm fine with. I didn't send him any sort of message asking for the cash from the auction, he thought of it because he knows I got a raw deal.
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Post by shorty on Dec 2, 2015 22:03:21 GMT
aar you can't realistically expect to get $1325. You are always biased when you defended your lopsided trades, but I kind of assumed that you were doing your due diligence and defending yourself cuz no one will.
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Post by somerandomguy on Dec 2, 2015 22:21:52 GMT
No chance anyone votes yes. Then you don't get the money
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Post by aar on Dec 2, 2015 22:25:46 GMT
No chance anyone votes yes. Then you don't get the money I get what bundy says I get
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Post by aar on Dec 2, 2015 22:26:08 GMT
aar you can't realistically expect to get $1325. You are always biased when you defended your lopsided trades, but I kind of assumed that you were doing your due diligence and defending yourself cuz no one will. I will get what bundy says I get
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Post by somerandomguy on Dec 2, 2015 22:27:50 GMT
Yer, let's ignore his follow up
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Post by swish on Dec 2, 2015 23:18:35 GMT
This didn't make sense at all. There should be no way aar gets this amount of cash or any cash. It's not like he waved drazen. Like srg said. Aar took a gamble and lost. Who's to say that the Knicks wouldn't have gotten under the hard cap if they would of atleast tried. & I bet if gms knew this cash was going to anybody they wouldn't have gave nearly as much. It should of been stated in the beginning. Has nothing to do with any sort of gamble. The Knicks would have lost Yao, weren't allowed to use cash and would have been basically crippled. I lost out on two top-5 picks because their GM bitched out. I think the question kinda boils down to whether a HC penalty should be implemented even if a GM quits before it takes effect. If yes, then aar got screwed no question But if not, then the GM leaving + team restructuring is just a consequence the Wiz gotta deal with for holding onto another team's first I do think it's more arbitrary than people think, given that there is no actual rule as to what happens when a GM does quit like that... it does make sense that aar gets some compensation given that the Drazen decision was also arbitrary. 1300 does obvious seem like too much though, idk..
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Post by somerandomguy on Dec 2, 2015 23:59:29 GMT
there really isn't any reason for the Wizards to a penny whatsoever, if there is it's very weak as everyone here who has traded for a pick or traded away a pick knows that unless you protect it a certain way, there's no guarantee you'll get the #1 pick or the #29 pick. If you trade a pick and expect it to be loto and come to find out the team improved and wins 50 games that year, it's kinda like "oh well, tough luck" the same goes for a contender trading a pick away to find out it's been loto (this definitely has happened to me a couple times, unfortunately). People don't ask for compensation because of this.
The arguement aar is trying to make, is because of special circumstances that he should get something for it. When really the same thing happened as I outlined above, and from my POV it's no different, ya it sucks for aar, but LGM was a moron and decided to fuck himself over then bail before we even put him under 48 hours (if you look back, he planned on quitting when he couldn't waive his players). We're not going to waive Yao Ming, because that's completely unfair to the new GM who won't have any picks and aging players (who we're trying to recruit so the team isn't a useless CPU team). We also shouldn't give aar a cent because what he's arguing is really minor.
Also should mention I'm absolutely amazed the sort of control aar seems to have over the league, I have never seen a GM with this much power that isn't a simmer, or any sort of significance to the league other then being really active and GM president. We have had a ton of great GM's in this league guys like shard, dae, braz, shorty, bloop etc etc etc and really active/vocal ones like svedda. None of them could just bark and get what they wanted (I'm just talking in general, not trades). Maybe it's because this league is in year 2050 and not 2020 and bundy/others aren't as involved anymore. I still find it amazing.
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 0:02:00 GMT
I'm cool with whatever bundybastard decides. I'm done stating my case. Not getting into a pissing match.
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 0:02:39 GMT
I also didn't ask for this compensation, bundy made the decision.
Ask bundy if he's received a single PM from me on the matter. He hasn't.
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Post by nyybaseball on Dec 3, 2015 1:22:57 GMT
I also didn't ask for this compensation, bundy made the decision. Ask bundy if he's received a single PM from me on the matter. He hasn't. Lmao. Yes you did. You wanted the HC to still happen to the Knicks which gives you two top 5 picks. Don't lie.
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 1:32:17 GMT
I also didn't ask for this compensation, bundy made the decision. Ask bundy if he's received a single PM from me on the matter. He hasn't. Lmao. Yes you did. You wanted the HC to still happen to the Knicks which gives you two top 5 picks. Don't lie. You have access to buddy's PMs?
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Post by nyybaseball on Dec 3, 2015 1:38:16 GMT
Lmao. Yes you did. You wanted the HC to still happen to the Knicks which gives you two top 5 picks. Don't lie. You have access to buddy's PMs? I have access to the forums in which I saw plenty of posts from you crying like a baby
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Post by BANNAK on Dec 3, 2015 1:39:54 GMT
This thread gave me aids, you're all idiots
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Post by BANNAK on Dec 3, 2015 1:43:49 GMT
Love how this turned into an aar witch hunt, I don't see him asking for the money at all? And yes he deserves some compensation, look at the Bucks after their HC punishment. I'm getting a top-5 pick from them because of it. Just because he's a smart GM who targets idiots in trades and wins often doesn't mean he "runs the league" jfc lol
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Post by timtomas on Dec 3, 2015 1:44:58 GMT
I have nyk first this year and I didn't get $1
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Post by BANNAK on Dec 3, 2015 1:45:49 GMT
I have nyk first this year and I didn't get $1 Obv you deserve compensation too
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Post by SuperMaor23 on Dec 3, 2015 1:50:54 GMT
Love how this turned into an aar witch hunt, I don't see him asking for the money at all? And yes he deserves some compensation, look at the Bucks after their HC punishment. I'm getting a top-5 pick from them because of it. Just because he's a smart GM who targets idiots in trades and wins often doesn't mean he "runs the league" jfc lol That explains why he never offers me trades lol
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 1:51:10 GMT
You have access to buddy's PMs? I have access to the forums in which I saw plenty of posts from you crying like a baby Find one post before today where I asked for cash compensation
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 1:52:06 GMT
Love how this turned into an aar witch hunt, I don't see him asking for the money at all? And yes he deserves some compensation, look at the Bucks after their HC punishment. I'm getting a top-5 pick from them because of it. Just because he's a smart GM who targets idiots in trades and wins often doesn't mean he "runs the league" jfc lol Bingo. Glad at least one GM gets where I'm coming from
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 1:53:04 GMT
Also, I didn't target the Knicks GM, he was a good GM who frequently put together top teams, he wasn't some noob
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Post by timtomas on Dec 3, 2015 1:53:19 GMT
i think both have their points, maybe less compensation or like i said before Arr can choose to sell the two NYK picks for $600 and i should be able to sell mine as well That way NYK new GM can have the picks back and arr decide if he wants the pick or not or something like that. shortysomerandomguynyybaseball
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 1:54:32 GMT
i think both have their points, maybe less compensation or like i said before Arr can choose to sell the two NYK picks for $600 and i should be able to sell mine as well That way NYK new GM can have the picks back and arr decide if he wants the pick or not or something like that. shortysomerandomguynyybaseballI'm not selling the picks under any circumstance.
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Post by timtomas on Dec 3, 2015 1:56:31 GMT
Then u can choose not to sell it. It's not a must
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Post by bundybastard on Dec 3, 2015 2:01:42 GMT
Aar has limited control over the league, but he is one GM that tries to get involved in as many aspects of the league as possible, outside of us simmers the league has always needed a fM too look over areas of the league and have a supervisor role, not GMs who sit back and only really show interest when a topic like this is discussed
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Post by nyybaseball on Dec 3, 2015 2:03:50 GMT
I have access to the forums in which I saw plenty of posts from you crying like a baby Find one post before today where I asked for cash compensation Read my post again and then try again
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Post by aar on Dec 3, 2015 2:05:24 GMT
Find one post before today where I asked for cash compensation Read my post again and then try again You should do the same.
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Post by nyybaseball on Dec 3, 2015 2:06:56 GMT
Read my post again and then try again You should do the same. You're retarded
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