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Post by tyfreak on Jan 9, 2015 2:20:35 GMT
What about one amnesty since the HC/SC is being lowered?
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Post by somerandomguy on Jan 9, 2015 2:29:43 GMT
expiring deals are gonna gain some more value for sure
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Post by nyybaseball on Jan 9, 2015 2:37:04 GMT
No ur vote didn't win.. dk what ur complaining about, there was no majority. What makes no sense is keeping waivers as is.. - Clearly there's a problem with it being too easy to get under HC. It's a joke to go over and back under, and it shouldn't be. A lot of people aren't happy with this, Bundy doesn't like waivers period, and I think there needs to be an amendment. So ya, a change is happnening. 10/23 votes saying they want it to remain the same isn't definitive. - Bundy said that he's been in plenty of other leagues that don't even have waivers, and teams over HC have gotten under, so don't see why there's any issue - Like I said, I plan on allowing teams 1-2 mil over the HC to use waivers so people who accidentally go over can get back under. If you accidentally go over the HC by any more than that, then you deserve being screwed Is there a better compromise out there?? I was the one who suggested this in the first place because it just made sense. This protects waivers for just about everyone, and it encourages better cap management, which is a pretty damn crucial part of GMing. Lmao there were several options, but the one with the most votes did not win. Don't understand how you don't understand that. You don't combine options, they are seperate for a reason
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Post by shorty on Jan 9, 2015 2:38:26 GMT
No ur vote didn't win.. dk what ur complaining about, there was no majority. What makes no sense is keeping waivers as is.. - Clearly there's a problem with it being too easy to get under HC. It's a joke to go over and back under, and it shouldn't be. A lot of people aren't happy with this, Bundy doesn't like waivers period, and I think there needs to be an amendment. So ya, a change is happnening. 10/23 votes saying they want it to remain the same isn't definitive. - Bundy said that he's been in plenty of other leagues that don't even have waivers, and teams over HC have gotten under, so don't see why there's any issue - Like I said, I plan on allowing teams 1-2 mil over the HC to use waivers so people who accidentally go over can get back under. If you accidentally go over the HC by any more than that, then you deserve being screwed Is there a better compromise out there?? I was the one who suggested this in the first place because it just made sense. This protects waivers for just about everyone, and it encourages better cap management, which is a pretty damn crucial part of GMing. Lmao there were several options, but the one with the most votes did not win. Don't understand how you don't understand that. You don't combine options, they are seperate for a reason If u feel that strongly, then start another poll. Bundy and I have already seen enough tho, and putting more time into it would be wasting energy.
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Post by nyybaseball on Jan 9, 2015 2:39:25 GMT
Lmao there were several options, but the one with the most votes did not win. Don't understand how you don't understand that. You don't combine options, they are seperate for a reason If u feel that strongly, then start another poll. Bundy and I have already seen enough tho. There's no point. The votes won't matter.
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Post by shorty on Jan 9, 2015 2:41:15 GMT
Yeah ur retarded. Just trollin' now buddy
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Post by nyybaseball on Jan 9, 2015 2:45:16 GMT
Yeah ur retarded. Just trollin' now buddy Use proper grammar if you're going to call somebody retarded. Not trolling, I think you are the troll. No point in arguing with you, you're pretty stubborn.
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Post by springs on Jan 9, 2015 2:46:53 GMT
he was looking for a consensus, not a winner
the consensus wasn`t there
btw if I could change one thing I would take away the +5 for hosting GMOTY. a simple task gets more RC than most get in an entire season. doesn`t add up
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Post by tyfreak on Jan 9, 2015 6:39:37 GMT
Not really a fan of the quality of mentor affecting the camp. Young rebuilding teams don't have quality vets so they get less of a camp than good teams with solid vets
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Post by basenoc on Jan 10, 2015 22:56:28 GMT
I wonder if we could get a spend to Front Load a Contract? Must be 29yrs old
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Post by shorty on Jan 14, 2015 22:14:19 GMT
Added in Mandatory pick protection for CY teams
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Post by blue on Feb 8, 2015 5:29:32 GMT
can we sticky this?
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Post by BrazilianDude on Feb 8, 2015 11:57:02 GMT
Blue always used to sticky
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Post by BrazilianDude on Feb 8, 2015 19:14:22 GMT
Is that contract buy out we talked about for money a thing. I saw it somewhere but fogey where shorty
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Post by shorty on Feb 8, 2015 19:26:25 GMT
Is that contract buy out we talked about for money a thing. I saw it somewhere but fogey where shortyIt's in the OP. Look in the middle.
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Post by BrazilianDude on Feb 8, 2015 20:03:59 GMT
Is that contract buy out we talked about for money a thing. I saw it somewhere but fogey where shortyIt's in the OP. Look in the middle. Two things should be decided early I think. When does buy out need to be done by. Also if we decide begging of season. Should have 1 sim to buy out if a player is traded for, 2 can you use buy out in HC
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Post by BrazilianDude on Feb 8, 2015 20:04:55 GMT
It's in the OP. Look in the middle. Two things should be decided early I think. When does buy out need to be done by. Also if we decide begging of season. Should have 1 sim to buy out if a player is traded for, 2 can you use buy out in HC And do you need to buy out half, or can you decide to buy out only 5 mil for 500 cash for example
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Post by shorty on Feb 8, 2015 20:12:31 GMT
I'm hoping bundybastard can answer these questions. I don't have any experience with buyouts in leagues and I know next to nothing about how buyouts work in the NBA. I'm guessing you can buyout a player anytime during a season cuz that happens in the league, but don't quote me on that yet.
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Post by bundybastard on Feb 8, 2015 21:37:40 GMT
I was considering scrapping it since I felt it made it too easy for GMs to get under the HC, however if we make a restriction on the period where your allowed to activate the feature then it might work.
Perhaps between Days 1 - 20 it can be used?
Half the players last Season salary stays on the books as a "cut" rest gets erased
Or we disallow this to be used on players who are currently on their last Season salary
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Post by BrazilianDude on Feb 8, 2015 22:24:39 GMT
I was considering scrapping it since I felt it made it too easy for GMs to get under the HC, however if we make a restriction on the period where your allowed to activate the feature then it might work. Perhaps between Days 1 - 20 it can be used? Half the players last Season salary stays on the books as a "cut" rest gets erased Or we disallow this to be used on players who are currently on their last Season salary But for example if I used it on parish he makes 20. I spent 1000$ he makes 10 mil as his salary. And the other 10 goes to cut? But doesn't cut still count on my cap hit or does it not
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Post by shorty on Feb 8, 2015 23:09:30 GMT
I was considering scrapping it since I felt it made it too easy for GMs to get under the HC, however if we make a restriction on the period where your allowed to activate the feature then it might work. Perhaps between Days 1 - 20 it can be used? Half the players last Season salary stays on the books as a "cut" rest gets erased Or we disallow this to be used on players who are currently on their last Season salary But for example if I used it on parish he makes 20. I spent 1000$ he makes 10 mil as his salary. And the other 10 goes to cut? But doesn't cut still count on my cap hit or does it not 10 mil goes away and 10 mil stays as dead cap in that case. How about if you are buying out a contract to get under HC, then you have to pay a $200 penalty in addition. So let's say you are 3 mil over and you are buying out a 6 mil salary player, you have to pay an additional $200 on top of the $300 it costs to buy out his contract.
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Post by hambergler on Feb 8, 2015 23:11:52 GMT
So i can cut 10m of baylors contract next year but it would be in my cut salary this year?
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Post by bundybastard on Feb 8, 2015 23:17:32 GMT
No it would be listed in the year of his final Season
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Post by shorty on Feb 8, 2015 23:20:03 GMT
Okay, so as an example, let's say Andrew Harrison (currently on Hornets, will soon be on Blazers) gets bought out right now. How much does it cost, and what is all the salary that is left over in dead space?
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Post by hambergler on Feb 8, 2015 23:25:35 GMT
I dont see how its helpful if its cut salary anyways in the same season
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Post by bundybastard on Feb 8, 2015 23:30:15 GMT
Well Hyper would be required to pay $1015 to buy out half of his final Season, Id then remove his salary for that year off index and allocate half of the salary to the cut section for the Season which was brought out
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Post by BrazilianDude on Feb 8, 2015 23:30:29 GMT
I dont see how its helpful if its cut salary anyways in the same season Yeah the cut salary would still be yours so I guess t would be helpful so you could trade the it but if your still laying dead salary against your hard cap it's useless
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Post by bundybastard on Feb 8, 2015 23:32:07 GMT
It's not going to help out a ton, will likely only be useful for GMs who are struggling to waive a player to get under the HC
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Post by hambergler on Feb 8, 2015 23:46:47 GMT
Oic, easier to waive a 10m harrison than a 20m harrison
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Post by tyfreak on Feb 25, 2015 18:19:46 GMT
You can do math and FA can still screw that all up. Do you not know that by now? There'll likely be an option put to the vote that allows teams 1-2 mil over the HC to waive so if someone makes a mistake, then they can get under still. Either way, getting under HC is a joke, so there's no question it needs an amendment. It doesn't matter if in "theory," people should squeeze HC teams, how has that worked out in the past? Point is, people should be discouraged to ever cross the HC. Just a note for the HC/SC, tbh in the end it won't make much of a difference, because lower HC/SC will just mean lower salaries for the same players on your teams now. I doubt it'll affect much. Supply and Demand will even things out in 5 seasons. Back when the HC was 82 million, I had a prime Ron Artest, Tracey McGrady, Shawn Marion, Steve Francis, and the GOAT Vlad Stephania ALL on my team, and stayed under. So I don't think the cap changes will have the desired effects. The biggest difference will always be what players the GM spend their salary on with what they have available. Whole league bout to be over HC but it doesn't make a difference? Ok
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