|
Post by SuperMaor23 on Aug 30, 2014 21:43:58 GMT
Another issue I have, idk if its fixable. But max contracts are being demanded and thrown around way too easily. Most players getting significant minutes will demand a max deal after their rookie deal is over. Its a crapshoot to be honest. You could lucky and have drummond sign for 9 mil per or get fucked by marc gasol taking max. I got lucky with harden accepting my 10 mil per but still I risked losing him. Is that something we can fix or is that all fbb bullshit?
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Aug 30, 2014 21:46:22 GMT
Another issue I have, idk if its fixable. But max contracts are being demanded and thrown around way too easily. Most players getting significant minutes will demand a max deal after their rookie deal is over. Its a crapshoot to be honest. You could lucky and have drummond sign for 9 mil per or get fucked by marc gasol taking max. I got lucky with harden accepting my 10 mil per but still I risked losing him. Is that something we can fix or is that all fbb bullshit? FBB bullshit.
|
|
tyfreak
Administrator
Indiana Pacers
Posts: 12,962
Staff Member
|
Post by tyfreak on Aug 30, 2014 21:53:24 GMT
What is the cap floor at currently?
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Aug 30, 2014 21:53:53 GMT
What is the cap floor at currently? 30 mil.
|
|
tyfreak
Administrator
Indiana Pacers
Posts: 12,962
Staff Member
|
Post by tyfreak on Aug 30, 2014 21:55:36 GMT
What is the cap floor at currently? 30 mil. My suggestion (This season) 30 Next 34 Season After 37 then 40
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Aug 30, 2014 21:57:14 GMT
Noted. I'll change the OP to reflect the general requests of everyone here.
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Aug 30, 2014 22:03:18 GMT
Updated first post
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Aug 30, 2014 22:29:08 GMT
|
|
|
Post by BrazilianDude on Aug 30, 2014 22:38:36 GMT
Should have like a 5 mil in the cap set aside frm coaches. But if you want to pay to get a really great coach you take from your player cap. So if you had 80 mil in players and a 10 mil pay coach you would have your cap at 85 mil.
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Aug 30, 2014 23:38:26 GMT
Should have like a 5 mil in the cap set aside frm coaches. But if you want to pay to get a really great coach you take from your player cap. So if you had 80 mil in players and a 10 mil pay coach you would have your cap at 85 mil. If every team is going to be required to have a coach, then this would be a good idea. But you know how in real life you could pay a coach something like 2-3 mil a year (like a first year coach in Brad Stevens on Celtics) or pay a championship coach like Phil Jax 7-12 mil a year? The 5 mil set aside doesn't really portray that, it'll merely inflate the prices of lower-tier coaches. I'd say just use cash to buy coaches and not have it be a part of the salary cap tbh. Real life coaching salaries aren't a part of the cap, they are just extra expenses coming from the business.
|
|
|
Post by SuperMaor23 on Aug 31, 2014 2:21:33 GMT
Should have like a 5 mil in the cap set aside frm coaches. But if you want to pay to get a really great coach you take from your player cap. So if you had 80 mil in players and a 10 mil pay coach you would have your cap at 85 mil. If every team is going to be required to have a coach, then this would be a good idea. But you know how in real life you could pay a coach something like 2-3 mil a year (like a first year coach in Brad Stevens on Celtics) or pay a championship coach like Phil Jax 7-12 mil a year? The 5 mil set aside doesn't really portray that, it'll merely inflate the prices of lower-tier coaches. I'd say just use cash to buy coaches and not have it be a part of the salary cap tbh. Real life coaching salaries aren't a part of the cap, they are just extra expenses coming from the business. Cash might be a good idea, but what about a more neutral way, the better teams get more cash because of better stats and stuff.
|
|
daedalus
Administrator
Co Commish
Posts: 5,582
Staff Member
|
Post by daedalus on Aug 31, 2014 22:57:29 GMT
Give every team $200 to spend on coaches. Max salary $500? Top teams can of course hire the best ones for 500 while teams can choose to spend zero out of pocket and sign a $200 level. Also shorty might be a good idea to propose some kind of protection for GM's following a CY team. Something along the lines of a hard rule preventing CY teams from dealing current year picks and future picks (one or two years forward?) must be lotto protected if dealt. Would be really terrible for a franchise, and the following GM, to take over a team gutted by the previous GM not caring about dealing future unprotected picks.
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Sept 1, 2014 19:21:34 GMT
Give every team $200 to spend on coaches. Max salary $500? Top teams can of course hire the best ones for 500 while teams can choose to spend zero out of pocket and sign a $200 level. Also shorty might be a good idea to propose some kind of protection for GM's following a CY team. Something along the lines of a hard rule preventing CY teams from dealing current year picks and future picks (one or two years forward?) must be lotto protected if dealt. Would be really terrible for a franchise, and the following GM, to take over a team gutted by the previous GM not caring about dealing future unprotected picks. I'm a fan of the cash idea. I'd even be aggressive and propose that there is no max salary for coaches. I don't think there are restrictions for how much you can pay a coach in real life. As for the protection.. I'm open to ideas on that front. I'd say something like: - Mandatory top 5 protection on the current and next year's 1st picks. - If the protection is used, the team with the pick will be compensated $500. This takes away some of the value of the CY's pick value and forces them to be more creative with trades.
|
|
|
Post by nyybaseball on Sept 1, 2014 21:52:10 GMT
Yeah coaches salary shouldn't be used against the salary cap, should be cash. And no cash limit.
|
|
|
Post by BrazilianDude on Sept 1, 2014 21:57:18 GMT
Give every team $200 to spend on coaches. Max salary $500? Top teams can of course hire the best ones for 500 while teams can choose to spend zero out of pocket and sign a $200 level. Also shorty might be a good idea to propose some kind of protection for GM's following a CY team. Something along the lines of a hard rule preventing CY teams from dealing current year picks and future picks (one or two years forward?) must be lotto protected if dealt. Would be really terrible for a franchise, and the following GM, to take over a team gutted by the previous GM not caring about dealing future unprotected picks. I'm a fan of the cash idea. I'd even be aggressive and propose that there is no max salary for coaches. I don't think there are restrictions for how much you can pay a coach in real life. As for the protection.. I'm open to ideas on that front. I'd say something like: - Mandatory top 5 protection on the current and next year's 1st picks. - If the protection is used, the team with the pick will be compensated $500. This takes away some of the value of the CY's pick value and forces them to be more creative with trades. Has to be in effect for future cy teams. I got the spurs pick and moved Westbrook for it. If he doesn't make it and I lose that pick for 500$ that's bs
|
|
|
Post by nyybaseball on Sept 1, 2014 21:59:05 GMT
Coaches salary should be like FA. Blind bidding except highest amount gets the coach. No max cash in bank. However much cash you warn is how much you have
|
|
|
Post by nyybaseball on Sept 1, 2014 22:00:31 GMT
Cy traded picks should have protection but should guarantee 1st round pick. No cash if protection is used. Future 1st
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Sept 1, 2014 22:00:50 GMT
I'm a fan of the cash idea. I'd even be aggressive and propose that there is no max salary for coaches. I don't think there are restrictions for how much you can pay a coach in real life. As for the protection.. I'm open to ideas on that front. I'd say something like: - Mandatory top 5 protection on the current and next year's 1st picks. - If the protection is used, the team with the pick will be compensated $500. This takes away some of the value of the CY's pick value and forces them to be more creative with trades. Has to be in effect for future cy teams. I got the spurs pick and moved Westbrook for it. If he doesn't make it and I lose that pick for 500$ that's bs This is for deals that occur after the CBA is in effect. If Spurs hit CY in 2022 or 2021 or w/e, the rule wouldn't apply to their picks since the trade was done before the new CBA
|
|
|
Post by BrazilianDude on Sept 1, 2014 22:14:46 GMT
Has to be in effect for future cy teams. I got the spurs pick and moved Westbrook for it. If he doesn't make it and I lose that pick for 500$ that's bs This is for deals that occur after the CBA is in effect. If Spurs hit CY in 2022 or 2021 or w/e, the rule wouldn't apply to their picks since the trade was done before the new CBA Yeah I agree with the rule in a sense. I feel like cy doesn't really do much tho... But I guess it's the only way for some gms who enjoy that constant rebuild to compete. Bc if you lose all your players you def won't pick up a good team and have a shot for another year
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Sept 1, 2014 22:29:22 GMT
This is for deals that occur after the CBA is in effect. If Spurs hit CY in 2022 or 2021 or w/e, the rule wouldn't apply to their picks since the trade was done before the new CBA Yeah I agree with the rule in a sense. I feel like cy doesn't really do much tho... But I guess it's the only way for some gms who enjoy that constant rebuild to compete. Bc if you lose all your players you def won't pick up a good team and have a shot for another year That's also why I proposed the cash compensation in exchange for a CY team's picks. It essentially de-values their pick so that other teams will find the pick risky, and then CY team will find it hard to get great/good value and keep it. In general it's not good practice for a losing team to trade away a future pick in the hopes of getting better anyway, unless they are getting a superstar in return. In that case, the star/superstar will make the team a lot better and thus the picks a lot worse anyway. Also, if the protection just leads to the next pick, it usually takes more than one year for a team to rebuild especially after they are expansion drafted, so that's why I suggested cash and not just the next year's pick.
|
|
|
Post by nyybaseball on Sept 2, 2014 1:44:58 GMT
Don't like the cash compensation on picks at all
|
|
tyfreak
Administrator
Indiana Pacers
Posts: 12,962
Staff Member
|
Post by tyfreak on Sept 2, 2014 3:19:38 GMT
How about a few more simple rewards like
Non-stackable Participating In Slam Dunk/3 PT $25 Winning ASW Event $50
|
|
tyfreak
Administrator
Indiana Pacers
Posts: 12,962
Staff Member
|
Post by tyfreak on Sept 2, 2014 3:20:13 GMT
How about a few more simple rewards like
Non-stackable Participating In Slam Dunk/3 PT $25 Winning ASW Event $50
|
|
bundybastard
Administrator
Co Commish
Posts: 15,661
Staff Member
|
Post by bundybastard on Sept 2, 2014 3:21:10 GMT
Naa
|
|
|
Post by BrazilianDude on Sept 2, 2014 3:29:17 GMT
Changing reb rewards to 18 I can never get 20 to save my life
Have rewards for team rewards... Scoring 130+ 80 reb in a game
30 team steals
Stuff like that
|
|
|
Post by BrazilianDude on Sept 2, 2014 3:29:25 GMT
Changing reb rewards to 18 I can never get 20 to save my life
Have rewards for team rewards... Scoring 130+ 80 reb in a game
30 team steals
Stuff like that
|
|
|
Post by BrazilianDude on Sept 2, 2014 3:29:39 GMT
Changing reb rewards to 18 I can never get 20 to save my life
Have rewards for team rewards... Scoring 130+ 80 reb in a game
30 team steals
Stuff like that
|
|
|
Post by getbeard on Sept 2, 2014 3:52:56 GMT
I just don't know the point of coaches. Are they gonna be given like specialties or something or certain + increases per season? Gonna need to wipe AC/RC points out if that's the case. Think adding coaches is a bit of a dramatic change to the setup of a very successful league, and I'm not sure I'm for that.
|
|
shorty
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15,223
Staff Member
|
Post by shorty on Sept 2, 2014 4:02:35 GMT
I'm not sure how Coaches are gonna fit in either, but Bundy wants to try it and it is something new so personally I say fuck it, let's try.
If coaches require cash, then that's cash you normally spend on camping that you now spend on coaches instead. So it sorta balances out.
|
|
tyfreak
Administrator
Indiana Pacers
Posts: 12,962
Staff Member
|
Post by tyfreak on Sept 2, 2014 4:47:33 GMT
What about a pick'ems league? +2 too winner. Everyone else gets 25 for participating if they participate each week
|
|