Bye

[aar]

Nov 27, 2015 21:24:35 GMT BrazilianDude said:

Nov 27, 2015 15:01:57 GMT aar said:

This is kind of unfair to me tbh.

I have the next two Knicks picks after this season. They'd be way better if he got hit with the HC penalty like he was supposed to :/

Penalty goes by gm not team you didn't trade for the picks assuming a penalty . Don't you got enough good players

Besides the point.

[getbeard]

Yea you didn't trade for picks assuming he'd get some sort of penalty making those picks 1000x more valuable

[BrazilianDude]

Nov 27, 2015 21:26:05 GMT aar said:

Nov 27, 2015 21:24:35 GMT BrazilianDude said:

Penalty goes by gm not team you didn't trade for the picks assuming a penalty . Don't you got enough good players

Besides the point.

Think about the league and a new gm coming in to a team already with no picks...

[getbeard]

Aar gonna end up trading those picks back to the new gm for like Yao so idk why he's upset

[aar]

So the GMs who have Bucks picks get to benefit because HF isn't a bitch but myself and timtomas get shafted because Knicks GM is?

Hardy seems fair.

[aar]

Then why have an HC penalty? GM can just bail if they get hit with it.

[aar]

Also, this totally fucks the Mavs over as well

[getbeard]

Nov 27, 2015 21:33:01 GMT aar said:

Then why have an HC penalty? GM can just bail if they get hit with it.

Gms can bail for anything lol we hardly have control over that man

wed like to think most of the gms would be grown up enough to take there penalty and not quit, obviously this dudes a piece of shit tho and most of us already he that figured out and aren't surprised.  This statement is just kind of ridiculous 

[getbeard]

And I'm not tryin to sound like a dick to you btw, I definitely see your side and that sucks for you plain and simple. But for the good of the league we can't screw over a team with no gm and give the team to a new guy in a horrible spot. And it's not like anything changed for you anyway necessarily

[aar]

Nov 27, 2015 21:43:57 GMT getbeard said:

And I'm not tryin to sound like a dick to you btw, I definitely see your side and that sucks for you plain and simple. But for the good of the league we can't screw over a team with no gm and give the team to a new guy in a horrible spot. And it's not like anything changed for you anyway necessarily

So why are we screwing over three teams then?

[getbeard]

Nov 27, 2015 21:56:51 GMT aar said:

Nov 27, 2015 21:43:57 GMT getbeard said:

And I'm not tryin to sound like a dick to you btw, I definitely see your side and that sucks for you plain and simple. But for the good of the league we can't screw over a team with no gm and give the team to a new guy in a horrible spot. And it's not like anything changed for you anyway necessarily

So why are we screwing over three teams then?

Idk what you mean by that

[hambergler]

Tbf if you traded for LGM1 picks you probably were counting on some sort of catastrophe, or at least 5 straight lotto seasons somewhere

[hambergler]

There is, after all, a reason why we trade for LGMs picks and not aar or greemes

[hambergler]

No more trading picks over a calendar year away? Cant trade 2052 1sts until 2051 draft starts

[aar]

Nov 27, 2015 22:02:49 GMT getbeard said:

Nov 27, 2015 21:56:51 GMT aar said:

So why are we screwing over three teams then?

Idk what you mean by that

Mavs get screwed because they are way over HC with Drazen and can't use waivers

Nugs and I get screwed because Knicks keep Ming and hurt our Knicks picks

[aar]

Nov 27, 2015 22:14:40 GMT hambergler said:

Tbf if you traded for LGM1 picks you probably were counting on some sort of catastrophe, or at least 5 straight lotto seasons somewhere

Exactly.

[nyybaseball]

Nov 27, 2015 22:20:49 GMT aar said:

Nov 27, 2015 22:02:49 GMT getbeard said:

Idk what you mean by that

Mavs get screwed because they are way over HC with Drazen and can't use waivers

Nugs and I get screwed because Knicks keep Ming and hurt our Knicks picks

Wait are you being serious? 

And Drazen isn't on the Mavericks. I'm assuming he goes on waivers and isn't on a team until he gets claimed.

[hambergler]

Hawks, Nuggets, Sund, Blazers are the only teams that can even claim Drazen without going over HC... doubt any of them would

[hambergler]

Just make filling the other two teams priority iver Knicks, continue with Hard Cap penalties as if LGM is finishing the season as GM and wait until offseason or next season to put a new GM in, even if we end up making someone wait

[nyybaseball]

Nov 27, 2015 22:29:12 GMT hambergler said:

Just make filling the other two teams priority iver Knicks, continue with Hard Cap penalties as if LGM is finishing the season as GM and wait until offseason or next season to put a new GM in, even if we end up making someone wait

Nah can't give a HC penalty to a team. It goes to GM.

[tyfreak]

Nov 27, 2015 21:31:52 GMT aar said:

So the GMs who have Bucks picks get to benefit because HF isn't a bitch but myself and timtomas get shafted because Knicks GM is?

Hardy seems fair.

you don't get fucked over, but no one would take them with no picks in 4+ years and their best player in waivers. Makes no sense to fuck over the new Gm

[hambergler]

Thats why I'm saying we pretend its LGMs team for the rest of the season. Just because a team is GM less doesnt mean it doesnt abide by the rules. I understand that putting Drazen back on waivers makes sense, but no one is going to claim him so it doesnt fix anything

[hambergler]

If you dont think anyone wants to embark on the mission of fixing that team give them the HC penalty and I'll take them. If thats the problem Raps at least have their picks and should be easier to fill

[hambergler]

Or hire a GM tonight and tell him he has 48 hours to get under HC....

[getbeard]

Sorry totally disagree and I have a hard time believing the league consensus will be to punish an ownerless team

The 2 teams who are getting "screwed", nothing has really changed for them IMO

[hambergler]

If we wont punish the ownerless team for being over HC then they need to get under HC OR we shouldnt allow GMs as much trade freedom. Cant just ignore rules because an asshole dipped on his team after we allowed him to get in this situation

[hambergler]

I'm trying to compete for a playoff spot taken up by a team that's over hard cap, but if I were over hard cap I'd be expected to get under or face the penalty. I'm competing against a team that has an advantage over me and the rest of the league

[getbeard]

Maybe a middle ground solution would be to IR drazen and release him to FA in offseason rather than Yao. Just think it's unfair for an ownerless team to lose its best player cuz lgm sucked and Yao is certainly an appealing piece for a new owner to want to take the Knicks. And if a new gm joins before end of season he has option to either get under HC and be able to use drazen or he doesn't have to get under but has to leave drazen on IR. Idk im just spit balling but I think that's a fairly decent solution for most involved

[nyybaseball]

They aren't overpowered. Drazen is going on waivers like bundy said. No team has been penalized for HC, two owners have. There's no possible way this team still gets the HC penalty, so it's pointless arguing about it

[nyybaseball]

Nov 28, 2015 0:37:35 GMT getbeard said:

Maybe a middle ground solution would be to IR drazen and release him to FA in offseason rather than Yao. Just think it's unfair for an ownerless team to lose its best player cuz lgm sucked and Yao is certainly an appealing piece for a new owner to want to take the Knicks. And if a new gm joins before end of season he has option to either get under HC and be able to use drazen or he doesn't have to get under but has to leave drazen on IR. Idk im just spit balling but I think that's a fairly decent solution for most involved

Pretty much what is going to happen imo