New CBA Negotiations

[shorty]

The current CBA will end after this season. So let's take this chance to make necessary modifications. I know some things that Bundy was considering:

- Proposal RFA: Give up a 1st pick in order to match a RFA'd player OR increase the price to match even further. 
- Removing Waivers (or amending it at least)
- Enforcing mandatory protection on a CY'd team's following season's pick
- Cost to extend MLE/LLE
- New Camps (just look at Bundy's post on Page 2)
- Lower HC/SC gradually 

Some other suggestions:
- If we're keeping waivers, make it so that you can only pull out of a waiver within 2 hours of the waiver creation
- Probably we should fix some of team rewards to make some of them challenging, but still attainable. 


Just jot down your ideas. We'll use this OP to be the official list of suggestions/considerations

[BrazilianDude]

Have more players mostly international stay a year overseas after drafting( more of a league idea I guess tho)

[tyfreak]

Dec 16, 2014 22:15:04 GMT shorty said:

The current CBA will end after this season. So let's take this chance to make necessary modifications. I know some things that Bundy was considering:

- Removing RFA
- Removing Waivers
- Enforcing mandatory top 3 protection on CY team's 1st picks 

Some other suggestions:
- If we're keeping waivers, make it so that you can only pull out of a waiver within 2 hours of the waiver creation
- Probably we should fix some of team rewards to make some of them challenging, but still attainable. 


Just jot down your ideas. We'll use this OP to be the official list of suggestions/considerations

You shouldn't be able to remove your claim unless someone else claims. 

[SuperMaor23]

Is it possible to change the amount a player receives on a max deal? Kinda bs if you think about it, its either braz paid embiid 30+mil a year, or lost him to FA

[shorty]

Dec 17, 2014 5:29:24 GMT SuperMaor23 said:

Is it possible to change the amount a player receives on a max deal? Kinda bs if you think about it, its either braz paid embiid 30+mil a year, or lost him to FA

Probably cuz Embid is worth 30 mil a year. 

[SuperMaor23]

Dec 17, 2014 6:09:50 GMT shorty said:

Dec 17, 2014 5:29:24 GMT SuperMaor23 said:

Is it possible to change the amount a player receives on a max deal? Kinda bs if you think about it, its either braz paid embiid 30+mil a year, or lost him to FA

Probably cuz Embid is worth 30 mil a year. 

Ehh debateable. But too many maxs are thrown out thats the problem. 

[shorty]

Dec 17, 2014 6:15:07 GMT SuperMaor23 said:

Dec 17, 2014 6:09:50 GMT shorty said:

Probably cuz Embid is worth 30 mil a year. 

Ehh debateable. But too many maxs are thrown out thats the problem. 

Salary structures are fine. If maxes were any lower, you could fit 5 stars on one team, and that's far worse than what things are now. If anything, we could discuss lowering the SC and HC so there's less cap space. 

[BrazilianDude]

Each team gets 1 amnesty every 5 seasons ? Has to pay 500$ to use it

[BrazilianDude]

Also and contract year picks shouldn't have protextion on the current year when they a re still gm. Assuming they are trying to not get fired they will have a good record that won't be top 3 anyway. Protextion should only be future picks

[celticfan]

I like the idea of bringing down the hard cap to like 83-84 million. Think it is 88 right now

[tyfreak]

Dec 17, 2014 16:12:30 GMT BrazilianDude said:

Each team gets 1 amnesty every 5 seasons ? Has to pay 500$ to use it

Don't see Bundy allowing that one. Was there an amnesty ever granted in this league? Saw it mentioned once but didn't see anyone get amnestied, although that was probably before I came back. 

[BrazilianDude]

Dec 17, 2014 17:33:02 GMT tyfreak said:

Dec 17, 2014 16:12:30 GMT BrazilianDude said:

Each team gets 1 amnesty every 5 seasons ? Has to pay 500$ to use it

Don't see Bundy allowing that one. Was there an amnesty ever granted in this league? Saw it mentioned once but didn't see anyone get amnestied, although that was probably before I came back. 

got one, one time for the 2020 season or some shit

[getbeard]

what if either RFA is either taken out or totally changed up

RFA is a 2-time fee. First fee of like $300 to apply the RFA tag, second fee is if you'd like to match you need to pay another $300(this one goes to team that signed your RFA)

That way you have to pay regardless if you want to match or not, and if you do want to match you're gonna need to be willing to pay

IDK just an idea might make less people RFA, and RFA's will only be on select few players rather than every half decent guy coming off there rookie deal

[BrazilianDude]

Dec 17, 2014 18:23:58 GMT getbeard said:

what if either RFA is either taken out or totally changed up

RFA is a 2-time fee. First fee of like $300 to apply the RFA tag, second fee is if you'd like to match you need to pay another $300(this one goes to team that signed your RFA)

That way you have to pay regardless if you want to match or not, and if you do want to match you're gonna need to be willing to pay

IDK just an idea might make less people RFA, and RFA's will only be on select few players rather than every half decent guy coming off there rookie deal

yeah i like this. bc everyone essentially rfa every rookie they got. or if its like a player who was taken top 5 then you can RFA but if the other team gets him they need to give a protected draft pick pretty sure thats how baseball is?

[getbeard]

Dec 17, 2014 18:28:59 GMT BrazilianDude said:

Dec 17, 2014 18:23:58 GMT getbeard said:

what if either RFA is either taken out or totally changed up

RFA is a 2-time fee. First fee of like $300 to apply the RFA tag, second fee is if you'd like to match you need to pay another $300(this one goes to team that signed your RFA)

That way you have to pay regardless if you want to match or not, and if you do want to match you're gonna need to be willing to pay

IDK just an idea might make less people RFA, and RFA's will only be on select few players rather than every half decent guy coming off there rookie deal

yeah i like this. bc everyone essentially rfa every rookie they got. or if its like a player who was taken top 5 then you can RFA but if the other team gets him they need to give a protected draft pick pretty sure thats how baseball is?

ya I think baseball is similar to that

so it would be something like:
RFA Tag- $300
Once signed to other team to enforce RFA Tag
if player was top 5 pick: top 10 protected pick
if player was lotto: lotto protected pick
all others: $300

[BrazilianDude]

only problem is someone would have to enforce that and it would be annoying as fuck

[springs]

get rid of gmoty

hand out a couple random +1 RC per season in live sims or something

[blue]

Dec 17, 2014 17:33:02 GMT tyfreak said:

Dec 17, 2014 16:12:30 GMT BrazilianDude said:

Each team gets 1 amnesty every 5 seasons ? Has to pay 500$ to use it

Don't see Bundy allowing that one. Was there an amnesty ever granted in this league? Saw it mentioned once but didn't see anyone get amnestied, although that was probably before I came back. 

Yeah I almost amnestied Wall lmao. But moved him and amnestied Wayne Ellington

[crazyguy2010]

My thoughts on this:
-Keep RFA either make it $500 dollars or make it where you can only RFA a certain amount of players over 2 or 3 seasons.
-Keep Waivers but lets find a better way to define players that can't be waived. Also make clear how long you have to backout of a waiver. Maybe allow picks to be used.
-I agree with the mandatory top 3 protection on CY teams 1st. If a new GM is coimg to have to come redraft a team and either have older players on bad deals or young/exprings they should atleast have a pick to work with.
 

[somerandomguy]

I think everyone here is in agreement that I should be able to amnesty cut Dennis Smith Jr. right now

we'll force this league into a lockout if I don't get my amnesty

[BrazilianDude]

Dec 17, 2014 22:22:04 GMT crazyguy2010 said:

My thoughts on this:
-Keep RFA either make it $500 dollars or make it where you can only RFA a certain amount of players over 2 or 3 seasons.
-Keep Waivers but lets find a better way to define players that can't be waived. Also make clear how long you have to backout of a waiver. Maybe allow picks to be used.
-I agree with the mandatory top 3 protection on CY teams 1st. If a new GM is coimg to have to come redraft a team and either have older players on bad deals or young/exprings they should atleast have a pick to work with.
 

maybe do away with the redraft all together... If the guy is getting fired why should the new GM come into the season with nothing on the team but other peoples scraps. it essentially sets them up to be contract yeared in the next 5 years baring some miracle. Typically the GM who takes over ends up not sticking around long because the team is so fucking bad anyway they lose interest. I think the GM should stay and lose his team OR the guy should get fired. 

[crazyguy2010]

Dec 18, 2014 7:42:20 GMT BrazilianDude said:

Dec 17, 2014 22:22:04 GMT crazyguy2010 said:

My thoughts on this:
-Keep RFA either make it $500 dollars or make it where you can only RFA a certain amount of players over 2 or 3 seasons.
-Keep Waivers but lets find a better way to define players that can't be waived. Also make clear how long you have to backout of a waiver. Maybe allow picks to be used.
-I agree with the mandatory top 3 protection on CY teams 1st. If a new GM is coimg to have to come redraft a team and either have older players on bad deals or young/exprings they should atleast have a pick to work with.
 

maybe do away with the redraft all together... If the guy is getting fired why should the new GM come into the season with nothing on the team but other peoples scraps. it essentially sets them up to be contract yeared in the next 5 years baring some miracle. Typically the GM who takes over ends up not sticking around long because the team is so fucking bad anyway they lose interest. I think the GM should stay and lose his team OR the guy should get fired. 

I agree do one of them but not both.

[gmgreggor]

I like the RFA. Maybe something to make it more discretionary though.

Like if you RFA a player he becomes the face of your franchise and you cant trade him without a penalty of some sort.

[swish]

remove Expansion Draft

Increase max cash trade to a number > $500

Don't like removing waivers completely, perhaps a salary limit to what players can be waived e.g. 10 mil

Occasionally have new players enter FA - Euro stars, return from retirement etc. (league idea, not CBA)

[shorty]

Well, if I was taking over a CY'd team, I'd rather have an expansion draft and create my own team from scratch rather than deal with the leftover from a team that failed to win 42 games. If anything, I'd say give new GM the option for an expansion or keep the team.

[BrazilianDude]

Adding contract match. For a Fa, if he doesn't resign or you choose not to resign him you can pay 500$ to match the max bid set out for given player.

Example lebron asks max in resigning, team wants to let him test the market... Normally gm would either have to max him or low ball and lose, this would give the gm the power to atleadt give a fair offer to what market is. Will decrease every single player getting max contracts.

In the real nba gms know how negotiations are witt other teams and what other teams are offering. I don't think the amount should be disclosed because then given gm could just offer 1 mil more and get the player. However I think it would be realistic for gms to be able to atlessr offer the good contract, the player won't always choose to return home but that's a risk I think many gms would take.

Gms would have to pay 500 to Match whether player resigns or not.

What you guys think ?

bundybastard shorty itnas123 tyfreak bloop ballislife &blueblaze3597

[popnfresh]

 I think when a new GM takes over a team, they should get one amnesty in their first season.  (BTW, I don't need to amnesty anyone, so I'm not suggesting this rule for my benefit)

[bloop]

I like the idea in theory but I think it's clear the league overall wants more movement with free agents.

[itnas123]

Dec 28, 2014 22:47:41 GMT bloop said:

I like the idea in theory but I think it's clear the league overall wants more movement with free agents.

essentially this. 

[basenoc]

Have a RFA sim 1st before the main FA sim. That way, if team matches the offer, it'll give the other team a shot at getting someone.
Or
The RFA gm has short period after FA to say yay or nay.