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Post by bundybastard on May 3, 2014 5:12:16 GMT
In the 2012/13 Season the league Collective Barganing Agreement will have expired, this means negotiations regarding a renewed CBA will need come into place very soon. While there's still just under 2 Seasons to negotiate the new CBA, it's a process that will take a lot of time and a lot of discussion. Everything in the current CBA will be thoroughly looked at and accessed, I'll warn every GM now when I say that I will be tough to negotiate with. Flip will not be involved in the Commish side of discussions, if he wants to he will need to step down as the GM of the Rockets. He is free to be involved in the GM side though. I will put forward my first layout of expected changes and proposes around the ASW. |
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Post by bloop on May 3, 2014 5:29:34 GMT
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Post by shorty on May 3, 2014 5:44:22 GMT
Great idea. We'll need all hands on deck for that.
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Post by tyfreak on May 3, 2014 5:47:30 GMT
#Lockout
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Post by Flip on May 3, 2014 6:56:06 GMT
Lockout time...
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Post by celticfan on May 12, 2014 1:01:22 GMT
Is the new CBA proposal coming soon?
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Post by shorty on May 12, 2014 1:23:18 GMT
School ends in 3 days for me, so I'll be ready to help out with this when the time comes.
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Post by malice on May 12, 2014 1:34:11 GMT
Is the new CBA proposal coming soon? I think the first step will be the Commish proposing what will be on the CBA, and we work from there. Unless there are any additions anyone would like to suggest preemptively... |
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Post by SuperMaor23 on May 12, 2014 3:30:47 GMT
WE DEMAND A RAISE OF THE HARD CAP
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Post by malice on May 12, 2014 4:57:33 GMT
WE DEMAND A RAISE OF THE HARD CAP Given there's no raise in the salaries we pay players, nor is there any type of inflation that impacts this... not going to happen. |
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Post by somerandomguy on May 12, 2014 5:11:24 GMT
btw, I speak for the Hawks owner when I say the owner wants top dollar and are unwilling to negotiate even if we miss awhole season and lose more money then we gain
#nbaownerlogic
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Post by gotmelk0490 on May 12, 2014 5:45:44 GMT
Suggestion for the way draft goes.
-Stick to the 20 minute pick
Example: Draft starts 7pm
Pick 1: 7:00 - 7:20
Pick 2: 7:20 - 7:40
Pick 3: 7:40 - 8:00
etc etc
Pick 15: 11:40 - 12:00
etc etc
Pick 30: 4:40 - 5:00
Regardless of how fast you pick, that is your time slot to pick. You know what time to be on the forum for your pick. If picks 1 and 2 are done in the first 5 minutes, pick 3 still has until 8:00. Use this format only for 1st round though, second round isnt as important and first round is done in a day regardless of playoffs.
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Post by somerandomguy on May 12, 2014 5:51:11 GMT
Suggestion for the way draft goes. -Stick to the 20 minute pick Example: Draft starts 7pm Pick 1: 7:00 - 7:20 Pick 2: 7:20 - 7:40 Pick 3: 7:40 - 8:00 etc etc Pick 15: 11:40 - 12:00 etc etc Pick 30: 4:40 - 5:00 Regardless of how fast you pick, that is your time slot to pick. You know what time to be on the forum for your pick. If picks 1 and 2 are done in the first 5 minutes, pick 3 still has until 8:00. Use this format only for 1st round though, second round isnt as important and first round is done in a day regardless of playoffs. actually not bad, this is how it's done in the NBA as well |
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Post by bloop on May 12, 2014 5:56:50 GMT
Suggestion for the way draft goes. -Stick to the 20 minute pick Example: Draft starts 7pm Pick 1: 7:00 - 7:20 Pick 2: 7:20 - 7:40 Pick 3: 7:40 - 8:00 etc etc Pick 15: 11:40 - 12:00 etc etc Pick 30: 4:40 - 5:00 Regardless of how fast you pick, that is your time slot to pick. You know what time to be on the forum for your pick. If picks 1 and 2 are done in the first 5 minutes, pick 3 still has until 8:00. Use this format only for 1st round though, second round isnt as important and first round is done in a day regardless of playoffs. actually not bad, this is how it's done in the NBA as well I'm a fan |
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Post by bundybastard on May 12, 2014 6:10:13 GMT
Need draft mods to do that, need to open up lge jobs actually
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Post by itnas123 on May 12, 2014 6:38:12 GMT
Need draft mods to do that, need to open up lge jobs actually I would sign-up with that......also fell like it would be nice to have what team the player played on in the NCEA next to the Draftees name. |
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Post by itnas123 on May 12, 2014 6:38:47 GMT
actually not bad, this is how it's done in the NBA as well I'm a fan I like it! |
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Post by malice on May 12, 2014 7:34:51 GMT
Suggestion for the way draft goes. -Stick to the 20 minute pick Example: Draft starts 7pm Pick 1: 7:00 - 7:20 Pick 2: 7:20 - 7:40 Pick 3: 7:40 - 8:00 etc etc Pick 15: 11:40 - 12:00 etc etc Pick 30: 4:40 - 5:00 Regardless of how fast you pick, that is your time slot to pick. You know what time to be on the forum for your pick. If picks 1 and 2 are done in the first 5 minutes, pick 3 still has until 8:00. Use this format only for 1st round though, second round isnt as important and first round is done in a day regardless of playoffs. That... would be awesome, if we all lived in the same time zone, and didn't have jobs/families/other-responsibilities to deal with. Combine those two issues together and this suggestion is something doomed to ostracize a significant section of our GMs. It's simply impractical when you consider the issues that some people may have in getting to pick within a 20 minute window. |
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Post by entrapy on May 12, 2014 7:41:36 GMT
How about we have a day-off after the playoffs. Clock will start after that day-off so everyone has their list sent.
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Post by malice on May 12, 2014 8:19:43 GMT
How about we have a day-off after the playoffs. Clock will start after that day-off so everyone has their list sent. I don't mind the draft starting during the playoffs - different set of teams. |
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Post by somerandomguy on May 12, 2014 9:00:40 GMT
if teams have time to create list, then that time idea would work fine.
If you want it could be 30 minutes instead of 20 just so there's more time to get list in. Still be able to get 6 picks in 3 hours assuming all picks got autoed.
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Post by gotmelk0490 on May 12, 2014 17:55:05 GMT
Suggestion for the way draft goes. -Stick to the 20 minute pick Example: Draft starts 7pm Pick 1: 7:00 - 7:20 Pick 2: 7:20 - 7:40 Pick 3: 7:40 - 8:00 etc etc Pick 15: 11:40 - 12:00 etc etc Pick 30: 4:40 - 5:00 Regardless of how fast you pick, that is your time slot to pick. You know what time to be on the forum for your pick. If picks 1 and 2 are done in the first 5 minutes, pick 3 still has until 8:00. Use this format only for 1st round though, second round isnt as important and first round is done in a day regardless of playoffs. That... would be awesome, if we all lived in the same time zone, and didn't have jobs/families/other-responsibilities to deal with. Combine those two issues together and this suggestion is something doomed to ostracize a significant section of our GMs. It's simply impractical when you consider the issues that some people may have in getting to pick within a 20 minute window. It actually is a lot more practical when you throw all the variables out there. Last draft I had to sit online for 5 hours waiting to make my pick. If I knew I had to be on within 20 minute window to make my pick, I would of time managed perfectly around it. Everyone else the same. If I couldn't be on for that exact 20 minute span but could be on 20 minutes before that, I could send a list of 2 guys. It is way better than knowing I need to go to bed with 10 picks left and not sure who to put on my list. It is a way better system in my opinion. |
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Post by malice on May 12, 2014 22:48:30 GMT
That... would be awesome, if we all lived in the same time zone, and didn't have jobs/families/other-responsibilities to deal with. Combine those two issues together and this suggestion is something doomed to ostracize a significant section of our GMs. It's simply impractical when you consider the issues that some people may have in getting to pick within a 20 minute window. It actually is a lot more practical when you throw all the variables out there. Last draft I had to sit online for 5 hours waiting to make my pick. If I knew I had to be on within 20 minute window to make my pick, I would of time managed perfectly around it. Everyone else the same. If I couldn't be on for that exact 20 minute span but could be on 20 minutes before that, I could send a list of 2 guys. It is way better than knowing I need to go to bed with 10 picks left and not sure who to put on my list. It is a way better system in my opinion. So... if your time works out to be middle of the night - what then? And I know that people argue "sending a list" would solve all... but the same is true of the current system - and the reason some people are looking at this as a problem is that people don't send in lists... that as an expected, then having a 20 min window to pick becomes an even bigger problem: because as sure as the sun'll rise tomorrow, if people (who haven't sent in a list) get autoed and get someone they don't want - there will be complaints. Sure, the current system takes longer, but it's fair - and everyone gets ample opportunity to pick. |
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Post by SuperMaor23 on May 12, 2014 23:31:55 GMT
I think we should also address team relocation
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Post by itnas123 on May 13, 2014 0:03:20 GMT
I think we should also address team relocation Yes Bobcats to become Hornets again!!! |
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Post by SuperMaor23 on May 13, 2014 0:05:27 GMT
I think we should also address team relocation Yes Bobcats to become Hornets again!!! And Wolves to become Maccabi Tel Aviv! |
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Post by gotmelk0490 on May 13, 2014 0:39:32 GMT
It actually is a lot more practical when you throw all the variables out there. Last draft I had to sit online for 5 hours waiting to make my pick. If I knew I had to be on within 20 minute window to make my pick, I would of time managed perfectly around it. Everyone else the same. If I couldn't be on for that exact 20 minute span but could be on 20 minutes before that, I could send a list of 2 guys. It is way better than knowing I need to go to bed with 10 picks left and not sure who to put on my list. It is a way better system in my opinion. So... if your time works out to be middle of the night - what then? And I know that people argue "sending a list" would solve all... but the same is true of the current system - and the reason some people are looking at this as a problem is that people don't send in lists... that as an expected, then having a 20 min window to pick becomes an even bigger problem: because as sure as the sun'll rise tomorrow, if people (who haven't sent in a list) get autoed and get someone they don't want - there will be complaints. Sure, the current system takes longer, but it's fair - and everyone gets ample opportunity to pick. 7am-12 midnight This process doesn't slow down or speed up the current situation. It is just a lot more organized. |
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Post by malice on May 13, 2014 1:51:58 GMT
So... if your time works out to be middle of the night - what then? And I know that people argue "sending a list" would solve all... but the same is true of the current system - and the reason some people are looking at this as a problem is that people don't send in lists... that as an expected, then having a 20 min window to pick becomes an even bigger problem: because as sure as the sun'll rise tomorrow, if people (who haven't sent in a list) get autoed and get someone they don't want - there will be complaints. Sure, the current system takes longer, but it's fair - and everyone gets ample opportunity to pick. 7am-12 midnight This process doesn't slow down or speed up the current situation. It is just a lot more organized. C'mon man, 7am-12 midnight isn't exactly the same the world round... right? And given that, and that you're talking about a 20 minute window WITHIN that 7am-to-12-midnight, it effectively means the 7-12 is irrelevant. And the reality you're talking about allows for no flexibility - be there at your 20 minute window, or have your list, or be auto'd. It is indeed more organized everyone lives in the same time zone, people can be available from 7am until 12 midnight (depending on where picks fall - that may or may not be a feasible suggestion), and if they can't, then they submit lists. Some facts (as we've experienced thus far): - People in this league live all over the world, in a wide variety of different timezones. - Some people in this league are in situations where it's possible that they cannot make themselves available for a 20 minute period, somewhere from 7am until 12 midnight (whatever that actually means regarding timezones). - The majority of people do NOT submit lists. Sure, it might take longer... but it's worked thus far. Something ain't broke... |
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Post by malice on May 13, 2014 1:53:00 GMT
Team relocation should be a possibility... depending on a GM vote then being OK'd by the commish.
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Post by gotmelk0490 on May 13, 2014 2:51:45 GMT
maliceIt hasn't worked to the best of it's ability though. Like I said, I remember last draft there were 10 guys sitting online waiting to see if they would have time to draft before bed or are they getting hit with the list. And don't act like a jackass, obviously every 7am is different. We start it at one time zone, adjust it to everyone else's time zone and move forward. For example Pick 1: 7am ET, 4am PT, etc etc.....I know there are multiple continents in this league it was an example you took way too literal. Also don't shoot down the idea because you don't like it, a bunch of managers already hit me up saying it was a good idea and some even liked the post. Be open to discussion of change
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