New CBA talk. Last chance to get stuff in before voting!

[tyfreak]

Let's go like the NBA

2015-16: $67.1 millions, tax $81.6 millions


2016-17: 89 millions, tax 108 millions


2017-18: $108 millions, tax $127 millions

[shorty]

Apr 17, 2015 23:09:11 GMT tyfreak said:

Let's go like the NBA

2015-16: $67.1 millions, tax $81.6 millions


2016-17: 89 millions, tax 108 millions


2017-18: $108 millions, tax $127 millions

1. We'd have to enforce the luxury tax, which is just more work tbh.
2. I'm just gonna ask this again. Why the hell is there such a demand to raise/change the HC? The HC is being raised in the real NBA because the league is doing so well and bringing in a lot of money. THe HC is raised so that across the board, players will get paid more and they get to share more of the wealth that the league is bringing in. This is a sim league and we don't need to worry about players being happy with their salary. 

If the HC was 10 mil, then a max contract would be like 2 mil, and the players don't give a shit about that, because they are just names on a file and not people. And also, if the HC was 10 mil, then a max will be 2 mil, a player who would normally get paid 4 mil in FA here, would get paid 4,000,000/8 = $500,000 instead. Does this Economics 101 fact not make sense? Because there's an even playing field between all teams, players just get paid relative to each other. In the long run, the HC does not change a team's ability to put together great teams. Asking for a HC raise because you can't afford to 3+ superstars on your team is just bitching now. You're not SUPPOSED to.. that's why the super teams are called superteams. And for the record I've seen plenty of super teams assembled by some great GMing so don't tell me it can't be done. In the NBA, the Miami Heat was assembled and they managed to put together a team after a lot of smart GMing by Pat Riley. 

I'm just going to lay out this scenario so you'll see what happens if we increase the HC to... 100 million and increase the SC appropriately:
1) For the next 3-4 seasons, there's going to be a huge spending boom and teams will be able to afford 5 stars on a team because their max contracts which were based on the old HC/SC will be relatively much smaller.
2) After contracts all adjust to the new HC/SC, we'll be right back to where we started; it'll be hard to field a team with 3 stars. 

So what does raising the HC/SC really accomplish except for short term mayhem? 

[bundybastard]

Can only hope ty was joking

[bundybastard]

Lol qwhat? Would have been pretty easy for Riley to GM when he knew a few years in advance that they were going to sign with the Heat

[somerandomguy]

don't understand the sudden change to CY, nor would I like it.

If anyone should be the spokesmen for lowering CY it should be me, I fucking lost my team to CY because I had not one but two seasons of winning 41 games. I don't think anyone has been that close to resetting their CY only to fail. As a result, I lost Trey Morning who has been dominating the league ever since among other players. And yet, I don't feel the need to do that at all, CY's fair as it is, 42 wins or playoffs or your out, it's that simple.

If you lower CY, it's a slippery slope, lower it to 39 and the teams winning 38 games will complain it's not low enough, lower it to 36 and teams winning 35 complain it's not low enough, so on and so forth.

[somerandomguy]

Apr 18, 2015 5:47:13 GMT bundybastard said:

Can only hope ty was joking

obviously

[bundybastard]

Nothing at all is getting changed, cept maybe the rule Bannak suggested regarding RFA offers, only thing Id like to see looked at is protection on draft picks following a team being CYd.

[bundybastard]

Open discussions regarding the CBA shouldnt be happening, us 3 simmers can discuss via PM and you GMs can appoint a new Union President if you feel the need too and then you can bring up any concerns with them. The CBA can be discussed every 5 Seasons, so after I go have a hard hit ill be closing this thread.

[tyfreak]

Apr 18, 2015 5:47:13 GMT bundybastard said:

Can only hope ty was joking

Yeah I was just joking, didn't expect anyone to take it seriously 

[popnfresh]

Suggestion that might make things interesting I'll throw in here: Every x amount time, there's an y% chance that a random player in the league demands a trade. Maybe every sim there's a 1 in 1000 chance a player demands a trade. If that happens, then a random team is chosen and then a random player from that team is chosen and that player has to be traded within a certain amount of time.

Inspired by Rajon Rondo

[tyfreak]

Apr 23, 2015 16:07:55 GMT popnfresh said:

Suggestion that might make things interesting I'll throw in here: Every x amount time, there's an y% chance that a random player in the league demands a trade. Maybe every sim there's a 1 in 1000 chance a player demands a trade. If that happens, then a random team is chosen and then a random player from that team is chosen and that player has to be traded within a certain amount of time.

Inspired by Rajon Rondo

What about only the team is told he wants out? Market is already kinda dry and adding that would make for offers like: I'll give you my overpaid C with ratings of C C D C B C and a protected second for your best player!!!!

[nyybaseball]

Apr 23, 2015 16:07:55 GMT popnfresh said:

Suggestion that might make things interesting I'll throw in here: Every x amount time, there's an y% chance that a random player in the league demands a trade. Maybe every sim there's a 1 in 1000 chance a player demands a trade. If that happens, then a random team is chosen and then a random player from that team is chosen and that player has to be traded within a certain amount of time.

Inspired by Rajon Rondo

Only like the idea if team is losing. A star Demanding a trade off a winning team would fuck everything up.

[popnfresh]

Apr 23, 2015 17:31:28 GMT nyybaseball said:

Apr 23, 2015 16:07:55 GMT popnfresh said:

Suggestion that might make things interesting I'll throw in here: Every x amount time, there's an y% chance that a random player in the league demands a trade. Maybe every sim there's a 1 in 1000 chance a player demands a trade. If that happens, then a random team is chosen and then a random player from that team is chosen and that player has to be traded within a certain amount of time.

Inspired by Rajon Rondo

Only like the idea if team is losing. A star Demanding a trade off a winning team would fuck everything up.

Well Kareem and Earl Monroe both requested a trade after losing in the finals
Wilt Chamberlain requested a trade in the off season after a 62 win season
And Hakeem requested a trade in '93.  He didn't get it and then won titles in 94 and 95.

So it's not all that out there for stars to requests trades off winning teams, and all these players are in this league.

But I wouldn't be opposed to what you said

[rookieoftheyear]

Turrible idea, will cause alot of complaining & people will be crying rig

[nyybaseball]

Apr 23, 2015 17:53:02 GMT popnfresh said:

Apr 23, 2015 17:31:28 GMT nyybaseball said:

Only like the idea if team is losing. A star Demanding a trade off a winning team would fuck everything up.

Well Kareem and Earl Monroe both requested a trade after losing in the finals
Wilt Chamberlain requested a trade in the off season after a 62 win season
And Hakeem requested a trade in '93.  He didn't get it and then won titles in 94 and 95.

So it's not all that out there for stars to requests trades off winning teams, and all these players are in this league.

But I wouldn't be opposed to what you said

Seem like rare occurrences then. But if that were to happen, a team could just decline the trade request? A lot of variables go into that it seems.